We are kicking off our first part of a two-part conversation with Kelsey Rose Rootenberg. She's a friend of Sara's and a friend of mine and her journey is not linear. Not only is it not linear, but she's actually in a phase of no longer being sober.

In this episode, we talk about the impact substances have on different people and the realization Kelsey had after getting sober of weed. We talk about her transition from being embarrassed by it to accepting it as part of her nonlinear journey. And we discuss the luxury that some people have of not liking the high that comes from substances. Kelsey also shares the importance of having coping skills that align with you and that you can turn to when needed.

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